Cullen Lovin’ Part 5: Carlisle and Esme

21 02 2010

At long, long last…I didn’t have time to look up all the quotes I wanted, but I know you guys know the books well enough to know what I’m talking about 🙂

1. Carlisle is the role model that kept Edward from killing Bella in the beginning.

“For one short second, I was able to think clearly. In that precious second, I saw two faces in my head, side by side.

One was mind, or rather had been: the red-eyed monster that had killed so many people that I’d stop counting their numbers. Rationalized, justified murders. A killer of killers, a killer of other, less powerful monsters. It wa s a god complex, I acknowledged that – deciding who deserved a death sentence. It was a compromise with myeslf. I had fed on human blood, but only by the loosest definion. My victims were, in their various dark pastimes, barely more human than I was.

The other face was Carlisle’s.

There was no resemblance between the two faces. They were bright day and blackest night…

In a few moments, there would be nothing left in me that would reflect the years I’d spent with my creator, my mentor, my father in all the ways that counted. My eyes would glow red as a devil’s; all likeness would be lost forever.

In my head, Carlisle’s kind eyes did not judge me. I knew that he would fogive me this horrible act that I would do. Because he loved me. Because he thought I was better than I was. And he would still love me, even as I now proved him wrong…

I would prove my father wrong about me. The misery of this fact hurt almost as much as the fire in my throat.” –Edward, Midnight Sun, Ch. 1 (I think)

2. Carlisle gives Esme Isle Esme, which she in turn loans Edward & Bella for their honeymoon.

And we all know what happened there 😉

“Who gives an island as a gift? I frowned. I hadn’t realized Edward’s extreme generosity was a learned behavior.” — Bella, Breaking Dawn, Ch. 5

3. Esma is their “vampire mother hen,” as Jake calls her.

“I snorted. Vampire mother hen – bizarre.” –Jake, Breaking Dawn, Ch. 14

4. Carlisle is the epitome of all that is good. Even the wolves have to admit it.

“If there was such a thing as a safe vampire, it was the strangely gentle leader.” –Jake, Breaking Dawn, Ch. 9

5. Esme loves her adopted children unconditionally.

“She would be for any plan that kept her family intact. Her first priority would not be rightness, but me.” –Edward, about Esme, in Midnight Sun

6. And she keeps them honest when they’re playing ball.

7. Carlisle wouldn’t act to save himself in Breaking Dawn because he wouldn’t want to hurt the wolves.

“Carlisle Cullen. Looking at him without that hate clouding my eyes, I couldn’t deny that killing him was murder. He was good. Good as any human we protected. Maybe better. The others, too, I supposed, but I didn’t feel as strongly about them. I didn’t know them as well. It was Carlisle who would hate fighting back, even to save his own life. That’s why we would be able to kill him – because he wouldn’t want us, his enemies, to die. This was wrong. And it wasn’t just because killing Bella felt like suicide.” –Jake, Breaking Dawn, Ch. 10

8. Carlisle keeps the peace between Rose & Edward – no mean feat at times.

“But I was no longer worried about Rose. I could see that she would go along with Carlisle’s decision, no matter how infuriated she was with me.” –Edward, Midnight Sun, Ch. 4 (I think)

9. Carlisle saved Edward, rather than letting him die of the Spanish Influenza.

And we all owe him BIG for that one.

10. Carlisle didn’t give into “peer pressure” to eat humans when he was living with the Volturi.

11. Carlisle offered Bree the chance to surrender in Eclipse.

As Edward says, only Carlisle would think to offer.

12. Carlisle must have done something right to be able to call in all those favors for witnesses in Breaking Dawn.

13. “If Carlisle was the soul of our family, then Esme was the heart. He gave us a leader who deserved following; she made that following into an act of love.” –Edward, Midnight Sun


I hope you enjoyed! Comment and tell what you love about the heads of the Cullen family 🙂

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Twilove,

My Never






Videos, Videos and more Videos!

17 11 2009

2 Days!!!!

New Moon quote-of-the-day: “It will be as if I’d never existed.” –Edward, Chapter 2 (and everyone’s heart breaks simultaneously)

UPDATE: More Access Hollywood interviews are available here. (Including Peter Facinelli and his wife acting out New Moon with the New Moon barbies….yeah lol)

Last night was the Hollywood premiere of NEW MOON!!!! Here are some videos from last night:

Rob interview with Access Hollywood:

Access Hollywood with Taylor (which was hilarious, I might add):

The KStew with Access Hollywood:

A REALLY sweet and touching moment with RPattz & a fan:

Rob answering the cookie question & another question about the film:

Jamie Campbell Bower on the red carpet:

(Shoutout to the Twilight Facebook and The Twilight Guy for the vid!)

And, of course, our goddess, the one and only Stephenie Meyer, rockin’ it on the red carpet:

(Again, shoutout to Twilight Facebook & The Twilight Guy!)

(Yesssss, there *needs* to be some Blue October on the soundtracks! Justin Furstenfeld is a god!)

Yesterday was also a day of TV appearances:

TLaut on Leno (EPIC): (Part 2 also features new New Moon footage!)

Dakota Fanning on Ellen: (She gets the bejeezes scared out of her by…what else? A vampire LOL):

Stephenie also posted the answers to some fan questions about New Moon on her site! I HIGHLY recommend you read them! Steph is amazing and hilarious! Plus, she talks Midnight Sun!

You can also watch extra footage from her Oprah interview from Friday here.

I still need to do my Cullen Lovin’ post for Carlisle and Esme! Let me know why you love them!

2 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My Never

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PPS – I found some more parodies! Keep an eye out for them sometime this week!





Breaking Dawn (Breaking Headboards)

22 10 2009

SPOILER ALERT – if you haven’t read Breaking Dawn (or Eclipse), don’t read this post (go read the books instead ;-))!

 

The final epic installment of the Twilight Saga caused a lot of controversy. Some fans loved it, some fans were like “what the hell?!” and some where a little bit of both. I was the latter. I actually saw Renesmee coming because my friend and I spent a month before the book was released debating every possible outcome (especially once the quotes-of-the-day started). However, I did NOT see Jake’s imprinting or the graphically violent birth scene coming. Breaking Dawn was intense (but that might have been because it was 4 am and I hadn’t slept in over 24 hours).  When I first got to part two and realized it was from Jake’s point-of-view I was NOT a happy fanpire. But, as I read, I realized Stephenie is, as I should have already known, a genius. Breaking Dawn changed a LOT of this and definitely took some getting used to, but I definitely love it as much as the rest of the series (Except for Midnight Sun. I love it the most, even if it is only 12 chapters *insert sobs here*).

For one thing, the first 3 times I read Twilight through Eclipse (before Breaking Dawn came out) I hated (HATED) Jacob Black. I hoped he would stay gone after he left in the prologue of Eclipse. He was a meddling little brat that hated the man vampire I loved and caused him unneccessary pain PLUS he damn near broke up Bella and Edward which was UNacceptable. Especially in the (2nd) Eclipse scene where the immature little brat threatened to let himself be killed if Bells didn’t kiss him…I wanted to ring his wolfy little neck. Buuuuut, then came Breaking Dawn. I saw inside Jake’s (notice the name change here…I’ve started calling him by Bella’s nickname for him…I can’t help it. I’m Bella. *cough*I wish*cough*) deliciously snarky head and saw that he was actually a sweet and funny guy who was trying to save the life of the girl he loved. I started to feel for him the way Bella did – still definitively Team Edward, but Jake had weaseled his way into a soft spot in my heart. Then, when I went back and reread the rest of the series (especially New Moon) I discovered that all of the things I hated about him before were kinda endearing and understandable all of a sudden. Steph has MAD skills. I think she did this on purpose. I had watched a lot of interviews where she expressed his displeasure over the Jacob-hate and said that apparently no one but herself understood the way his (hilarious) mind works. So what does she do? Gives us a whole big section full of fabulous Jake-snark. I was upset at first, but by the end, I was hella glad that I did NOT have to read that particular part from Bella’s point-of-view. It was stressful enough from Jake’s pov. Like I said, Steph’s brilliant. My friends each texted me when they got to section 2 going “WHAT?! She’s switching narrators?!?!?!” and each time I assured them that they just needed to have a little faith in our Twi-goddess’s infinite wisdom. And each time, they ended up agreeing with me.

Something else that took some serious getting-used-to in BD was Bella as a wife/mother/vampire. Like many Twilight fans, I am none of those things. I had been able to thoroughly relate to Bella throughout the rest of the series (so clumsy I’m almost disabled? Yep.) but all of a sudden, she was someone I didn’t know. She matured about 20 years in the course of a few hundred pages. It was disorienting to say the least. I couldn’t relate to her new maternal instincts. I still can’t, but I got past the inital confusion and got to know the new Bella and I gotta say, I love her just as much as the old Bella. I still have a really hard time going back and forth between the first three books and Breaking Dawn though. Each time, I have to readjust to Bella’s two different incarnations, because they are definitely distinct. I find Bella’s whole character development over the course of the series as quite striking. Rarely do you get to see that kind of evolution in one character in a short series.

Edward also changed for me in Breaking Dawn. After Renesmee’s birth and Bella’s change, when he had everything he’d ever wanted and no longer had to worry about Bella constantly, he became a lot less mysterious (which, let’s face it, is a huge part of his appeal). When he knew Bella was hiding something from him and didn’t question her about it I was very much like “What? Edward-the-curious would NEVER let something like that go!” It was really strange for me. But I do feel like he got a lot of that (and his stubbornness :-)) back over the course of the Volturi/Apocalypse plotline, thank God Carlisle. Edward’s called “the perfect man(vampire)” a lot, but I don’t think that’s true because that would be sooo boring! He can be stubborn and grumpy, overly curious and frustratingly incomprehensible – and that’s a big part of what I love about him.

What do you guys think about all of this? Did BD change your feelings for Jake? Was Bella’s transition hard for you? How ’bout Edward’s unassailable mellow-ness? I’m really interested to see if I’m alone in these feelings! Be sure to comment and don’t forget to follow the blog on Twitter or find it on Facebook! Spread the word – tell your TwiFriends about this blog!

As always, lots of TwiLove,

My Never





Quo-Twi-ables

21 10 2009

Hey guys! Sorry for not posting yesterday. Life’s been crazy this week. This post is gonna be a little short, but I promise to make it up to you later this week! First things first – have you seen the new “New Moon” footage from iTunes? If not check it out! And be sure to download your free copy from iTunes! It’s got some awesome wolfy action!

So today I thought I’d share some of my favorite Twilight Saga quotes. Be sure to comment with some of your favorites!

“No, I don’t care if you bite Jacob. That’s fine.” –Edward, Breaking Dawn

Jacob’s Chapter Titles in Breaking Dawn (cause you know they were the best):

“Waiting for the damn fight to start already.”

“Sure as hell didn’t see that one coming.”

“Why didn’t I just walk away? Oh right, because I’m an idiot.”

“Some people just don’t grasp the concept of ‘unwelcome’.”

“You know things are bad when you feel guilty for being rude to vampires.”

“Instead of being the A/V dweeb about to ask the head cheerleader to the prom, I was the finished-second-place werewolf about to ask the vampire’s wife to shack up and procreate. Nice.” –Jake, Breaking Dawn

“Did you know that ‘I told you so’ has a brother, Jacob? His name is ‘Shut the hell up’.” –Bella, Breaking Dawn

“Bout time somebody scored around here.” –Emmett, Breaking Dawn

Bella: “Why am I covered in feathers?”
Edward: “I bit a pillow. Or two.” (Breaking Dawn. Most epic quote ever.)

“You may not notice me tearing the furniture apart, but it would probably scare them.” –Edward, Breaking Dawn

“Very human, Emmett. Why don’t you punch through the wall while you’re at it?” –Rosalie
“It would look more impressive if you did it, baby.” –Emmett (Midnight Sun)

“Oh, for the love of all that was holy, would the catastrophes never end?” –Edward, Midnight Sun

“How strongly are you opposed to grand theft auto?” -Alice, New Moon

“The English room could have gone up in flames and I wouldn’t have noticed”. — Edward, Midnight Sun

 

Again, sorry it’s so short, but life happens. I’ll do better later this week! Thanks for reading you guys!

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Lots of TwiLove,

MyNever

PS – “New Moon” comes out in exactly 1 MONTH!!!!





Let’s Get Twilosophical

19 10 2009

The Twilight series is of course a fun read with drool-worthy heros and nerve-wracking action, but, as with most vampire novels, it asks some deeper questions about life as well. I thought we could wrap a weekend with some of the deeper side of our beloved novels. My friends and I have debated these things extensively, so I’ll share my side of the conversation below.

A question that’s come to my mind recently is whether fate or free will rules the Twilight universe. I personally subscribe to the belief that fate and free will cannot coexist because if things are fated to happen no matter what, our choices ultimately have no impact on the final outcome. So riddle me this: Alice’s constantly shifting visions imply that the characters’ choices impact the future – free will. However, Bella and Edward are supposed to be fated for each other, especially if you’ve read the AMAZING Midnight Sun (Please finish it, Steph! Please *puppy dog eyes* – and if you *haven’t* read MS I HIGHLY reccommend it. It’s AMAZING, as I’ve already said) because Edward realizes that Bella was made in just such a way as to make it impossible for him to ignore her (her scent, her silent mind, etc) and Bella was “born to be a vampire” (see part 3 of Breaking Dawn, around the part where she’s gleefully smashing the giant rock to smithereens) which suggests that fate is controlling things.

I personally think that free will rules the real world and the Twilight world. Choice is a HUGE factor in the series – Edward’s (bad) choice to leave in an attempt to save Bella from what he deems a terrible fate, Bella’s choice to sacrifice Jacob and the life she could have had as a human to become a vampire and be with Edward for eternity, her choice to fight for Renesmee (and her choice to *name* her Renesmee ;-)). None of these were easy choices, but they were made nonetheless. The fact that they found them worth fighting for is what gave them the impression that it was all fated. Bella was great as a vampire because she’d been mentally preparing for it almost since she met Edward. His inability to hear her mind stemmed from nothing more han the latent power that some humans possess and her blood smelled sweet to everyone, not just Edward. But that’s just me. What do you guys think?

Another interesting aspect of the Twi world is the concept of soulmates and whether Edward and Bella’s relationship is immature (I’ve heard this from a lot of people who clearly do not understand Twilight).

(This was in response to a friend’s comment – I’m sure you can infer what they said): You find Edward’s suicide attempt immature when he thought the sole reason for his existence was dead and he was in immense pain, but Jake threatening to kill himself to get Bella to KISS him and pick him over his competition was fine? I can see how it may seem like immature and irrational love on the surface, but you have to take into account his century of immortal experience. Also, since vampires are essentially frozen in time, for them to experience a real change, it has to be a MAJOR thing. Falling in love isn’t the same for them as it is for a human. I think they have their own equivalent of imprinting, except it’s not caused by the need to create stronger wolves. Which I think lends it more credibility as “the real thing”. Do you think Carlisle and Esme’s love is immature? They’ve never been put through the things Edward and Bella go though, so we don’t really know how they would react, but I’d be willing to bet it’d be very similar. The extra from Rosalie’s point of view makes me think she’d try the same thing if something happened to Emmett. Alice was willing to risk her brother and Bella (who she loved like a sister even before she met her, as evinced in MS) to save Jasper in New Moon. Age doesn’t mean much when you’re immortal, so I think it’s hard to apply our concept of “maturity” to the situation.

See, I kinda feel like threatening to kill yourself, even if you’re not actually gonna do it, is still exceptionally immature. It’s like a little kid holding their breath til they get their way.

I agree that centuries of experience would lead to greater maturity. That was part of my point. I get the sense that you think Edward/Bella’s relationship is immature because of all the typical “teenage” stuff, but Bella is an “old soul” and Edward is literally an old soul – 108 to be exact lol.

It’s not love at first sight. That’s a wolfy thing. Edward didn’t even realize he was falling in love with Bella for a long time. In fact, he didn’t realize it. He had it pointed out to him. (Hilariously, I might add). And just because it’s first love doesn’t mean it’s not true love. For vampires, first love is all there is because they’re frozen, constant creatures. Change is enduring and there’s no going back. First love in the human sense is sort of looked down upon because it fades over time, but in it’s initial stages it is a powerful, powerful thing. And for vampires, that powerful feeling lasts conceivably for all time. Isn’t our idealistic definition of “true love” love that lasts forever? Again, it’s an ideal. That’s why it’s fantasy. Well, that and the vampires and werewolves. And Bella and Edward’s relationship did take work (more than most, all things considered) and did evolve with time, which is what I’m gathering your definition of true love to be (correct me if I’m wrong). Edward has this internal war going on from the very beginning because he knows there’s only two possible ends: He’ll kill her himself or she’ll have to be a vampire one day. Neither one was a viable option to him, so he feels like he has to do SOMETHING. So, in the beginning, they have this constant threat of him leaving to save her from all the dark things he thinks he’s going to bring into her life, which makes them both uncertain in their relationship. Then, he manages to leave and all kinds of things result from that decision. To quote Steph:

“I didn’t realize until I was working on the resolution how much my characters had gained from this experience. Vital stuff. Without this painful separation, Bella might never have realized that Edward really is hers to keep. No matter how perfect she thinks he is, or how imperfect she thinks she is, he belongs to her. Words can’t quite capture the life-changing nature of this knowledge for Bella.  Equally as cataclysmic—Edward finally realizes the intensity of Bella’s feelings for him, something he has always underestimated. Here’s the thing about Edward: he knows human nature pretty well. He’s seen a hundred thousand human relationships from the inside, and none of them have come close to touching the depth and everlasting devotion of Carlisle’s and Esme’s love, or Alice’s and Jasper’s, or even Rosalie’s and Emmett’s. Can you blame him for thinking himself—after one hundred years of immortal experience—capable of a more profound love than his eighteen-year-old human girlfriend? Edward is, understandably, a bit of a know-it-all. He learns a lot through this experience, the most important being that Bella’s feelings for him are an exception to the human rule. Something else he learns (not quite as important, but still good to know) is that, despite all his knowledge, he is fully able to make hideous mistakes in judgment.”

And then, there’s Jacob. Possibly the biggest challenge their relationship faced. She had a choice. She loved someone else. It wasn’t like she fell in love with Edward and rode off into the sunset without ever looking at another man. Their relationship had trials and tribulations, just like any human one does. To quote Steph again, “In both Twilight and New Moon, Bella commits to becoming a vampire without once really examining what price she’ll pay. In Eclipse, Bella fully comprehends that price. And then she chooses to pay it.”

Why? Because to her Edward is worth it.

Another discussion topic was about the finer points of imprinting:

How did Bella’s romantic feelings for Jake just vanish? It makes sense that he got over her because of the imprinting thing, but she really did love him in more than just a brotherly way and at the end of Eclipse she says that the tear he left in her heart would always be a part of her. Now, I get that her joy at seeing him during her pregnancy came from Nessie and Jake being destined for each other, but was her love for him from the very beginning a result of the sadistic side of imprinting – she couldn’t let him go because she was destined to mother his “something that trumps a soulmate”? That doesn’t seem entirely plausible to me because Bella is just an ordinary human…it makes sense that Jake couldn’t leave her because his wolfy magic tied him to her because of the possibility of Nessie…but there was no magic acting on Bella to make it impossible for her to leave him. Furthermore, it’s a twisted way for imprinting to work…because if her feelings for Jake were because of Nessie, but they had won out in the end and she had chose Jake, there would never have been a Nessie. It’s an inherent contradiction. It’s making my brain hurt a little.

Maybe her “getting over him” was overshadowed by the Nessie connection. I guess my point is less about Bella not loving Jake like that anymore and more about the finer points of imprinting (even though it does seem odd to me that it all works out so tidily without an explantion as to how). I just find all the varied and intertwined ramifications of imprinting interesting. I wish Steph would explain it in more detail so that we aren’t left to our own conjectures, cause it’s definitely a central issue to the ultimate development of the plot. It’s like JK Rowling not telling us how horcruxes are made. How are we supposed to guess the ramifications of that information without it?

I still think her feelings for Jake were more than just familial. That kiss was way more than brotherly love. She saw the whole future she was giving up – her little black haired children. And yes it would be sick if she had a thing for her daughter’s guy. That’s why it bugs me. It’s like her feelings magically disappeared just so that element wouldn’t be a problem. It’s like when Medea rides off on a dragon-pulled chariot at the end of the play…it’s this fabricated device that doesn’t really fit in with every other aspect of the story and it’s simply there to tie things up in a pretty little bow.

I think in a fantasy book you have to just accept some things. Like imprinting is stronger than love-at-first-sight. It’s a mystical, wolfy connection that ties in with the magic in their genes. Or, if you go with Billy’s theory that it’s to create stronger wolves, it kinda removes the whole romantic aspect of it altogether. Then it’s just part of the evolutionary cycle – survival of the fittest.
 

And a final discussion topic brought up in the books themselves. Do vampires have souls?

I personally think they do. While the Cullens’ ethical choices could be purely intellectual, I don’t think it’s possible for them to feel emotions like love (both familial and romantic) without a soul. If it were by virtue of their intellectual capacities, they wouldn’t be willing to die for one another because their instinct is self-preservation above all else. I don’t think their natural bloodlust means they are automatically damned, either. They retain their essential humanity – and isn’t part of the essence of humanity the concept of a soul? Just like with human nature, it’s about what they do with the cards they’re dealt. Having a soul doesn’t mean you don’t have the capacity for both good and evil. The Cullens do better than a lot of humans (take Lonnie, for example). To quote Dumbledore, “It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.”
Plus, it would totally suck of Steph to make us love these creatures and then damn them with no hope of…redemption, or whatever you wanna call it. I’m with Carlisle – how can there not be more for one such as Edward?

I was thinking about the Nessie thing too. Motherly love without a soul seems like a contradiction, but maybe that’s just the product of societal conditioning. But I don’t think it is.

 

Well, those are some of the points of Twilight that we found interesting and debatable. What do you guys think? Share in the comments! Also, don’t forget to follow us on Twitter or friend us on Facebook (Isawforever Inmynever)!

Yours Twilosophically,

MyNever